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조회2,924 2010.07.04 14:13
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오늘 주말리그 제일고와의 경기에서 무려 5대0으로 대패하였다
운동장에서 경기를 관람하였는데 정말 창피하였다
저랑 같이 구경한 사람들 중에는 자녀가 중3 축구선수 부모도 같이보았는데
농고 축구가 어쩌다 이렇게 되었는지 참으로 안타깝다는 말씀을 하시면서
중3 학부모가  누가 농고를 보내겠냐고 의미있는 한 말씀하셨다
내가 학보모라도 그런생각을 하지않을까 생각한다
역대 농고 상고(현제일고) 경기에서 무려 5대0의 스코어 차이는 처음인거 같다
전술도 개인기도 없는 뻥축구에 의존하는 경기
뻥축구를 하려면 헤딩이나 제대로 하던지
지도자의 전술부재, 우수선수 확보 실패등등
참으로 안타깝다
뭐니뭐니해도 신동철감독이 있을때가 좋았다는 생각이든다
또 많은 동문들이 그렇게 생각하고있다
그때는 이런 창피함은 없었으니까
우리모두 다시한번 뒤돌아볼 필요가 있지않나 생각한다
강농축구 2010.07.04 14:36:54
  망햇네요이젠,다시다바꿉시다
동문 2010.07.04 16:47:11
  축구광다우신 말씀입니다.
그러므로 신동철감독님 이야기가 자연스럽게 나올수도 있지요.
그러나 무리한 승리보다 아름다운 패배, 그리고 꾸준한 발전을
생각합시다.
혹 현 감독의 능력과 파워에 문제가 많다면 그러한 사항은
강력하게 검토해 볼 필요는 있겟지요.
물소리 2010.07.04 17:01:52
  다른 사람에게 충고하고자 할 때에는
마음 속으로 다음과 같은 다섯 가지를 유념해야 한다.

충고할 만한 때를 가려서 말하고,
알맞지 않을 때에는 말하지 않는다.
진심에서 충고하고 거짓되게 하지 않는다.
부드러운 말씨로 이야기하고 거친 말을 쓰지 않는다.
의미 있는 일에 대해서만 이야기하고 무의미한 일에는 말하지 않는다.
인자한 마음으로 이야기하고 성난 마음으로는 말하지 않는다.
고스톱 2010.07.04 17:27:27
  축구광 은 뮤효 입니다. 무광으로  그냥  들어 가시지,,,
고스톱 잘되는 날도 안되는 날도,,,
축구광으로 는 무광에, 쓰리고 ,피박에,,,  쌍코피가,,
그래도 광은 광이니 앞으로는 고스톱에  축구광도 넣기로 함이 어떠실지,,,,
진짜축구광 2010.07.04 17:55:45
  나는 개인적으로 축구광님의 글에 동의합니다
동문님 무리한 승리보다 아름다운 패배 꾸준한 발점을 생각 합시다라고 하셨는데
무엇이 무리한승리이고 무엇이 아름다운 패배인지 잘모르겠습니다
경기라는것은 이기수도 있고 질수도 있는거 맞습니다
하지만 지더라도 어느정도로 져야 말을않하지요
강원도 주말리그중 최다 스코어가 아닌가요?
고스톱 잘되는날도 있고 않되는날도 있는거 맞습니다
그래서 운7기3이라고도 하지요
언제까지 2학년이라고 면죄부만 주고 감독을 옹호하실겁니까?
냉정하게 판단해서 안되는건 안되고 버릴건 버려야 한다고 생각합니다
2년안에 전국 정상으로 올려놓겠다고 큰소리 치시던 동문회및 학교관계자 축구관계자님들
강원도에서도 하위권에서 맴돌고있는데 거기에대해서 말씀좀 해보시지요
고스톱 2010.07.04 18:16:43
  <img src="http://pds14.egloos.com/pds/200901/16/72/a0101372_49700894de78c.jpg">,,,
cap't 조 2010.07.04 18:52:40
  오늘 아르헨티나도 독일에 4대빵으로 졌네요.
독일이 날랐지만 상대적으로 아르헨티나 경기가 엄청 꼬이던데...
좀 심하긴 하지만 고딩들이 그럴수도...
그러나 다신 듣고 싶지 않은 소식이네요.
축구평론가 2010.07.04 19:17:59
  오늘 전반전 끝나고 실망스런 표정으로 자리를 떠나는 동뭉님들을 많이보았습니다
과연 그분들이 어떤마음으로 돌아갔을까요?
과연 그분들이  경기장을 다시찾을까요?
이런경기를 하면 동문님들의 관심이 떨어집니다
강원fc를 보십시요 매번지니까 관심가졌던 팬들이 등을 돌리지않습니까
강농축구도 마찬기지입니다
이기는 경기를해야하고 또 지더라도 재미있는 경기를 해야 된다고 생각합니다
전술 없는 축구 실속없이 그져 뛰어 다니기만하는 축구
이런축구를 하여서는 않됩니다
우리학교만의 색깔있는 축구를 해야한다 이겁니다
정기전을 언급하셨는데 그때는 제일고에서도 1.2학년 주축으로 출전을 하였는걸로 알고있습니다
3학년이 3명 출전하였는데 골키퍼를 제외한 나머지 두명도 교체하여 10명 1.2.학년이 경기를 하였습니다
주말리그 강릉경기는 빼놓치않고 보러다니는데 매번 전혀 달라진 발전된것이없는 경기를 하는것을 보았습니다
제일고보다 1.2학년 선수들중에 우수한 선수들이 더많다고 하셨는데 그건 아닌거같고요
또 우수한 선수가 있으면 뭐합니까  감독이 잘 가르치지 못하면 그것또한 무용지물입니다
프로축구 삼성과 경남fc를 비교하여 보십시요
삼성에는 대한민국에서 내놓으라는 선수들이 다모여 있습니다 그런데도 꼴찌를 면치못하여 리그중에 감독이 사퇴하였습니다
반면 경남을보십시요 이름없는 무명선수들을 저비용으로 스커웃하여 조광래 감독만의 스타일로 만들어 리그 상위에
랭크되어 있지않습니까
강농축구가 무엇이 잘못되었는지 반성해볼때인거 같습니다 
물소리 2010.07.04 19:41:14
  본문의 축구광님과 댓글을 다신 진짜축구광, 축구평론가는 같은분 이신거 같은데
필명을 바꿔가면서 이런식으로 자기주장을 표현하는 것은 진짜 狂(미칠광)적인 짓입니다.
아무리 좋은글도 지나치면 狂적인 짓이 된다는 것을 명심하시길 바랍니다.
ㅋㅋ 2010.07.04 20:38:43
  물소리님은 무슨 근거로 그런 말씀을 하시는건지요? 전 다 다르게 보이는데...
물소리님도 시원스럽게 오늘평에 대해서 한마디 해보세요...
대안제시를… 2010.07.04 23:10:08
  자 ! 동문님들 다들 할말이 많은 것은 사실이라고 생각합니다. 그러나 ~~
현상황을 정확하게 집을 수 있는 즉,
다시말해서 무엇이 문제인지 주~~욱 나열해 보세요? 다들 축구에 관해서 일가견이 있지않습니까?
1.축구 전술에 문제가 있는지
2.선수 개개인의 개인기나 기본기에 문제가 있는지 
3.골키퍼의 위치선정에 문제가 있는지
4.아니면 팀 4-3-3 전술로 해야하는지 or 4-2-3--1 전술로 해야 하는지
5.아니면 우루과이 팀과 같이 수비에 치중하면서 역습시 결정적인 골로 연결하는것이 팀 분위기에 맡는것인지
6.아니면 다른포지션은 문제가 업는데 공격수가 2%로 부족해서 공격수를 급히 수혈을 해야하는지
7.가장 중요한 위치인 MF 포지션에서 전체적으로 약세인지 혹은 시야가 약간 좁아보인다...
8.지난번 신감독처럼 업사이드 전술을 능하게 잘 할수 있는 훈련에 치중해야 하는지 등등등....

저도 잘은 모르지만 현 문제점을 깁숙하게 파고 들어 가서
대안을 제시하는게 이순간 우리 농공인들이 해야할 사명이 아닌가 생각합니다

이런 문제점을 여기서 우리는 논 하는게 가장시급한 숙제라 생각되며,
앞으로 우리는 그냥 막연하게 이렇게는 안됩니다 등등...이런 내용보다는

보다 발전적인 개선책을 제시하여 주시면 담당부서에서 참고하질 않겠나 하는 개인적인 생각을 해 봄니다.

동문여러분
저는 사실 오늘 경기를 참관하지는 못해 사실 매우 궁금하였는데,
조금 아쉽습니다.. 그래서
앞으로 우리동문 /
혹은 우리 축구 뿐만 아니라 학교 대소사에 이와 같이 대안을 제시하는 동문gnng클럽이 될 수 있도록
다같이 노력하는게 어떻겠습니까?
우리 동문여러분은 너무 순수해서 정말로 이런것 같네요'''
동문여러분 서로 아껴주고 서로 존중하고 서로 사랑합시다..
감사합니다
입암골을 … 2010.07.05 02:06:04
  고학년과 저학년의 차이
너무 걱정마세요  저번 정기전과는 차이는 많습니다.
그리고 이런 편견 상대학교는 우수 신입생이 없다고들 하는데
이건 잘못된생각입니다 . 
제일고는 우리도 알다시피 축구진흥재단이라는 자금동력의 밑천이 있다는 사실...
우리도 동문회에서 아무리 지원한다고 하지만 엄연한 차이는 있습니다.
저쪽은 동문과 재단의 전폭적인 지원을 받고있는 차이...
내년을 바라보는 그런 안목도 넓히시길 바랍니다
동문 2010.07.05 12:53:35
  동해동문님의 의견에 동의합니다
나무소리 2010.07.05 12:55:07
  진것은 사실입니다 그러나 판단은 내년에 하는게
어떨까요? 다들아시겠지만 체전 도선발평가전에서 우승하고도
작년주말리그 우승팀에게 출전권을 빼았긴사실~ 아마 올 주말리그 우승팀이 다음해
체전 출전권이 주어지겠죠...
3학년 베스트(일고):1,2학년 혼성(모교) 누가 보아도 다윗과 골리앗의
싸움입니다 저도 주말리그 홈경기(강릉)는 빠짐없이 보는데요
상대편 3학년들과의 게임 마음이 아플때도 있습니다 그러나
모교 재학생 선수들에겐 잃을게 없고 배우고 얻는것만 있으면
됩니다 평가는 너무 빠른것 같네요~
평가는 내년 시즌에 합시다
올한해 개인기,체력,전술 더연마하면 내년에 최강 됩니다...^^

촌넘 2010.07.05 13:17:56
  1.2학년이 내년에 2.3학년 올라가면 달라질거라 생각하시면 큰 착오입니다.
상대는 3학년이고 우리는 저학년이고 이건 명분이 될수 없습니다.
골이야 한골먹으면 어떡고 10골먹으면 어떠습니까? 그러나
우리팀만의 플래이를 한다면 얼마나 좋습니까?
하지만 기량이 정체되어있고 전술도 없다면 그것은 큰문제입니다.
이대로 가다간 내년에는 더큰실망이 돌아올것입니다.
문제점을 하루빨리 찾아 좋은 모습보앗으면 합니다.


강농고 2010.07.05 15:36:08
  감독 자신도 자리에 너무 목메지 마십시요
내 능력이 어느 정도인지 감독 본인이 더 잘 알 것입니다
자기 스스로가 인정을 하고 물러 날때가 최고 아름답습니다
그리고 총동창회도 이번 축구부 감독 문제에 대하여 사심을 버리고
깊게 생각해 볼 필요가 있다고 생각합니다
모교는  축구 전통 고교입니다
지난 어려운 시기에 동문 선후배를 하나로 역어가는 것이 모교 축구 입니다
좋은 결론을 기대해 봅니다
쓴소리 2010.07.05 16:11:08
  이제는 우리 모두 정신차려야 합니다.
우리 선수들의 능력이 여기까지인거 같아서 안타까울뿐입니다.
일고도 전반전만 베스트이고,후반은 1,2학년인걸로 아는데 상당히 어려운 경기를
하였습니다.전술,전략이 하나도 없습니다.깊이 생각해봐야할 문제입니다.
문제해결책을 찾아야하겠습니다
농공 동문 2010.07.05 22:54:46
  이제는 새롭게 다시 태어나야 됩니다  우선 오늘 전반적으로다 전부 일고에게 밀리고
답이 전혀 안나왔습니다. 이건 다시 한번 생각 해보아야 될때가 된것 같네여 제일고도
초반엔 좀 밀리다가 감독이 교체후 새로운 전술과 새로운 전략으로 이젠 상위권 2위
유지 하지 않습니까 그리고 상대학교 3학년이 주축이라고 하는데 후반엔 1,2학년으로
경기를 하였던걸로 알고 있습니다. 후반에도 너무 밀렸던 게임 이었습니다. 다시 제대로
생각을 해보아야 될것 같네요 훌륭한 선택을 하시길 빌겠습니다
재학생 2010.07.06 10:32:28
  헐,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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동문 2010.07.06 15:04:41
  게임을 1.2학년이 하고 3학년이 안하고가 문제가 아니라
게임내용이 아무도 없다는 것입니다
이길수도 있고 질수도 있는데  이것을 논하는 것이 아니고
매번 보아도 전술이 부재라고요 그러니 감독을 교체 해서 다시한번
모교축구를 왕년으로 한번 돌려 보자는 것입니다
640233 2010.07.30 14:31:29
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